NBA Teams Are Losing Games On Purpose | Slam Dunk Contest | GSC. Episode 15

NBA Teams Are Losing Games On Purpose | Slam Dunk Contest | GSC. Episode 15

Danny Lehr: Welcome to the Gas Station Cappuccino by Caffeine and Kilos. I am Danny Lehr. Next to me, Dean Saddoris

Dean Saddoris: Here we are. We're back.

Danny Lehr: Back.

Dean Saddoris: We haven't done one in a couple weeks.

Danny Lehr: They don't know we've been gone. We're still logged up. I think we're still three episodes ahead.

Dean Saddoris: Oh that's good.

Danny Lehr: So yes, we're good to go there. Hey so we're going to get straight into something. I've been excited about this for weeks. I've been working it out.

Dean Saddoris: We actually haven't done any podcasts because you haven't had this available, whatever this is.

Danny Lehr: I really want to do this thing. And so I haven't ... We've been not podcasting until we could do it. And I'm pretty sure after this episode we're going to buy a more expensive mixer so we can do it the right way in the future.

Dean Saddoris: And so to get it moving -

Danny Lehr: The getting it done way.

Dean Saddoris: The getting it moving rig.

Danny Lehr: So Larry Wheels. Power lifter Larry Wheels. Follow him on Instagram? Know who he is?

Dean Saddoris: Yes I do.

Danny Lehr: Larry Wheels might be the strongest human right now.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. For sure the strongest bodybuilder, right? Because isn't he technically a bodybuilder?

Danny Lehr: Yeah. He does bodybuilding shows for sure. And I think he does power lifting meets also. I think so.

Dean Saddoris: That was ... Stan Efferding. Giving Stan Efferding a run for his money. The strongest bodybuilder. Everybody's sleeping on Larry Wheels.

Danny Lehr: So there's ... Here's the thing about Larry Wheels is if you watch any ... So everyone right now, like seriously, I know that it's really bad to tell people to stop listening to your podcast, but you guys need to pause this and go on Instagram. Look up Larry Wheels. Or when it's over. When it's over.

Dean Saddoris: What did he just do 11 reps on deadlift?

Danny Lehr: 865 or some shit.

Dean Saddoris: When his nose starts bleeding onto his chest.

Danny Lehr: So check this out. So here's the best thing about the Larry Wheels videos is in every one of them, the guy recording it behind the camera -

Dean Saddoris: The hype man.

Danny Lehr: He has the best hype man in the history of lifting weights. And his hype man actually, his Instagram title is, Black Tom Cruise.

Dean Saddoris: The Black Tom Cruise. Okay.

Danny Lehr: So if you're watching Larry Wheels video and you hear someone getting his ass fired up, who you're listening to is Black Tom Cruise. So I -

Dean Saddoris: That's a great Instagram name.

Danny Lehr: I listen to it, and I was watching it, and then what happened is I actually quit watching it and I just played the video about 18 times only listening to the audio.

Dean Saddoris: Just close your eyes.

Danny Lehr: Right? And so I want to share a little bit of that.

Dean Saddoris: Let's hear it.

Danny Lehr: All right. We're going to do the whole thing. It's less than a minute, right? But just fire it up. Okay.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Come on you monster. Yes. Come on. Oh yeah.

Danny Lehr: Oh yeah.

Speaker 3: Come on Larry. [inaudible 00:02:40] Yes. Come on man. Oh. Excuse me Larry. Oh.

Dean Saddoris: Excuse me Larry.

Speaker 3: Huh. Yes. Oh shit.

Danny Lehr: Oh shit.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Oh. Perfect.

Danny Lehr: Perfect.

Dean Saddoris: So that's the video that I was just referring to the deadlift video.

Danny Lehr: Yeah and I think -

Dean Saddoris: Like 11 reps right?

Danny Lehr: He got 11 reps and it's like 865 pounds or some shit. Right? And his hype man hyped up the whole way. So it reminded me of old talk radio. Because I just wanted to pull out some of them. For example when he goes -

Speaker 3: Come on you monster.

Dean Saddoris: Come on you monster. The guy is obviously from Brooklyn, New York.

Danny Lehr: Now [inaudible 00:03:35] fired up about something give one these.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

Dean Saddoris: See I thought this was wrestling stuff earlier when you played one by mistake.

Danny Lehr: Oh is that what you thought?

Speaker 3: Excuse me Larry.

Dean Saddoris: Excuse me Larry.

Danny Lehr: But that is incorrect.

Dean Saddoris: Excuse me Larry.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. And then there's a couple ... Not only that, you thought that this one -

Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

Danny Lehr: Was the way to go, but you have options there. You could also go this guy.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

Danny Lehr: You got two oh yeahs.

Dean Saddoris: This is fantastic. Is he trained -

Danny Lehr: Would you ... You said it's fantastic. Would you say that it's -

Speaker 3: Perfect.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Yeah. I would. I would say that. Is this ... Is he trained at the same gym as Oak?

Danny Lehr: I don't know.

Dean Saddoris: I feel like that other deadlift video was in the same place I always see Kevin training.

Danny Lehr: I'm not sure.

Dean Saddoris: Could be wrong.

Danny Lehr: Yeah, I'm not sure. I just love this. I don't know why but I think this one is just fantastic. And I thought you'd really like -

Dean Saddoris: Did you have to cut these?

Danny Lehr: Yeah. So I went ... So I downloaded an app on my computer and I did some audio editing. And then I uploaded them here that way, like I said, anytime we can just drop one of these bad boys.

Speaker 3: Excuse me Larry. Come on you monster. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Perfect.

Danny Lehr: So no we have Black Tom Cruise snippets. We [inaudible 00:04:49] times for all occasions. We can. Absolutely. Isn't that just -

Dean Saddoris: It's great.

Danny Lehr: And so the thing is with ... The only problem is though, a little peek behind the scenes for everybody listening, on the mixer the thing is if we ... For us to hear them we got a hit a little button which then makes it so we can't hear ourselves through the headphones.

Dean Saddoris: Which is ... That wasn't that bad.

Danny Lehr: No it's not that bad. But it's not ideal.

Dean Saddoris: No, yeah. It'd probably be better to just not have anything change.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. So the thing is I can still hit them on you.

Speaker 3: Come on you monster.

Danny Lehr: And call you monster like I just did, you don't even know it. Or we just can't hear each other talk and then I can say -

Speaker 3: Come on you monster.

Danny Lehr: Anytime and we're ready to go. Or we'll get a more expensive mixer.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah we got to tell Black Tom Cruise about this.

Danny Lehr: Oh absolutely.

Dean Saddoris: And Larry Wheels.

Danny Lehr: I bet he would love this shit. Do not know him personally. He might hate it. But I think ... I mean, like I said, do you see why I've been so fired up?

Dean Saddoris: No this is great. I like this.

Danny Lehr: Worth the wait?

Dean Saddoris: This is good. Oh yeah, for sure. This is a good edition.

Danny Lehr: It's a nice ... Yeah. Nice little something.

Dean Saddoris: It is good. Hilarious.

Danny Lehr: So if you guys like that, let us know. Try out some new stuff for the podcast. So email us, Let us know if you think ...  If you like it just let us know. Like you can say a couple things. Like, maybe say, "Oh man." Or maybe drop one of these and go like, "Uh you know what? I'd rather you not." You know what I mean? It's kind of ... It's going to be one of those things. So just kind of let us know what's going on. And maybe, just every three or four episodes we just run the whole thing through because that ... I just can't get enough of that

Dean Saddoris: We'll find time to use them all I'm sure.

Danny Lehr: Oh yeah. Well I'm talking -

Dean Saddoris: Won't have to search hard.

Danny Lehr: No. No. No. So yeah. There we go.

Dean Saddoris: There we go. I like that. Nice little new feature to the podcast.

Danny Lehr: Well you know I kind of figured ... I was thinking about doing it, talking, I was trying to work a way to where we could hear that and ourselves at the same time. This whole kind of thing. And then I realized, you know what? It's just time to ... Basically time to shit or get off the pot.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. It's like a talk radio show now.

Danny Lehr: You know -

Dean Saddoris: It feels natural to [inaudible 00:06:55] The Dan Le Batard Show.

Danny Lehr: Dan Le Batard. Yep. Dan and Pat.

Dean Saddoris: Dan and Patrick.

Danny Lehr: See you got to -

Dean Saddoris: Dan and [inaudible 00:07:01] Patrick.

Danny Lehr: You got have first name Dan be ... Oh. Don't worry. Ignore that.

Dean Saddoris: Oh. I thought that was another one of the buttons.

Danny Lehr: No. There is actually a few built in ones that are like ... Here let [inaudible 00:07:14] this real quick. Huh?

Dean Saddoris: A little baseball.

Danny Lehr: Or ...

Dean Saddoris: ESPN 30 for 30.

Danny Lehr: It was that time when I realized -

Dean Saddoris: What if I told you that the diamond wasn't the only shape in this scandal?

Danny Lehr: You'd layer them. You know what I mean? Maybe layer them. I don't know. And then there was the drumbeat one too that I had deleted by accident. So don't worry about that. Well no one says anything funny so we don't really need the whole drum roll. We don't need that bdum ch. You know? A minute ago I said to shit or get off the pot, and I realized I don't ... I'm not sure exactly what that means. You know what I mean? Like you either do something or you don't right? But I feel like either way you choose you're like, "Okay it's time to shit or get off the pot." Like maybe get off pot. Like maybe that was a decision. You know what I mean?

Dean Saddoris: I think it's intentions to be like either do something or move on. Like either shit, or get off the toilet and go do something else besides trying to shit because obviously it's not happening.

Danny Lehr: Modern day, you're sitting on the toilet you're on your phone. You know what I mean? So getting the pot's actually stopping what you're doing.

Dean Saddoris: Do you feel anger or upset if you go to take a shit and you forget your phone?

Danny Lehr: It's a weird thing.

Dean Saddoris: It's like, "Dude, now what am I going to do?"

Danny Lehr: "What? I'm just going to sit here with my own thoughts for the next two minutes?"

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. It's a weird thing.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. That's ... Yeah. It's a weird thing.

Dean Saddoris: Like, "Oh goddammit. Forgot my phone. Are you serious? Well I guess I'll start reading the toilet paper roll. Caution. May cause cancer if you use this toilet paper roll."

Danny Lehr: Hopefully there is a toilet paper roll. Because the other morning, I came in nice and early, I was heading out to Cal Strength, okay? Aaron's going with me. We're going to film some their NFL [inaudible 00:09:09] prep stuff, and we were going to bring the guy some stuff. So it's completely ... It's the opposite direction from where I live to where the warehouse is. So I drive up. I leave my house, 5:00 AM, drive up to the warehouse to grab a box which wasn't ready. So I made it. No problem. Don't mind doing that, boxing stuff up. Well figure I got up, drank some coffee, drove for 45 minutes, I'm out of the car boxing things up. I get half a box done, and it's time.

Dean Saddoris: Yep. It's time to go.

Danny Lehr: Now. Things are happening. Things are progressing rapidly. So I go in the bathroom. Open the door. Look over, well there's two toilet paper holders. Both empty. Right? Out. No toilet paper.

Dean Saddoris: That's the ideal situation.

Danny Lehr: Shit. Okay? So I'm going, "All right, paper towels." Don't see any paper towels. "Maybe there's paper towels in the kitchen." Why the door to the bathroom is off the kitchen that's a whole other ... That's a terrible design. There's a major design flaw there. Anyway, so I go into the kitchen and I, "Oh there's the roll. I see it. There is the roll of toilet paper that appears to be empty." And I look, and not empty. There is one remaining sheet of paper towel.

Dean Saddoris: So there's almost nothing around at all.

Danny Lehr: And the sheet of paper towel that's on there is the last one. So it's half glue. It's covered in like that glue. It's like that hard, stiff, glue soaked paper towel. Not soft at all. And it's like a half sheet. So I got half a sheet of gluey paper towel and I'm like, "Well it's this or I'm driving around the rest of the day with one sock." You know?

Dean Saddoris: Or check the other bathroom.

Danny Lehr: We have another bathroom?

Dean Saddoris: Yeah.

Danny Lehr: At the time, didn't even think about that. It was more of like ... I wasn't sure if I was going to make it to the kitchen for the paper towel and back in time. You know what I mean? Things were progressing rapidly. Things were moving right along. So I take the last sheet of paper towel that's all gluey, and now I'm thinking too like, "Man I don't want to plug the toilet." But there was only the one sheet anyway. Anyway, so that was that. Handled business and then moved along.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah it's funny. The bathroom that never gets used is the only bathroom at HQ that has a paper towel rack and always overstocks on toilet paper.

Danny Lehr: I think it's time to get a paper towel holder.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Or we could just take the off the one that's in that bathroom out there that never gets used.

Danny Lehr: Yeah.

Dean Saddoris: Well yeah. Actually what we're doing now is we have to go in between the bathroom and kitchen, depending on where the roll is, to wash your hands of any kind of liquid or -

Danny Lehr: Correct. Because since there are not -

Dean Saddoris: This goes back and forth.

Danny Lehr: Since there are not paper towel holders, there's no real place for it.

Dean Saddoris: So it bounces back.

Danny Lehr: So instead of putting one in each room, when one runs out you just grab one from the other because there's nothing holding it there. How much do you think we could get a paper towel holder for on Amazon? I bet we could one for $6.95.

Dean Saddoris: Oh I'm going to say $3.99.

Danny Lehr: Paper towel holder?

Dean Saddoris: Oh, if we're talking Prime though, Robbie I got to factor in the Prime upcharge. I'm going to say, $5.99, or $4.99 even. I'll even go $4.99.

Danny Lehr: Well I'm going to look right now. Paper towel holder? What did I say? $6.95? I mean come on. Even the cheap plastic ... $7.98, lowest so far. And guess ... $6.23. $6.23.

Dean Saddoris: That's the kind I was visioning in my head when I was thinking about the cheapest one. Yeah.

Danny Lehr: We could probably swing that. We could probably just leave that one in the bathroom, it's there and just get a [inaudible 00:12:50] one.

Dean Saddoris: That's the exact same one I think that's in there. In the bathroom outside.

Danny Lehr: That exact ... How did it get online? Oh same model.

Dean Saddoris: Same model.

Danny Lehr: Oh.

Dean Saddoris: Same design. It's got the plastic that folds into itself. Two screws. Some anchors that are just going to fall out of the wall.

Danny Lehr: When you're yanking on it.

Dean Saddoris: It's totally ... Structural integrity is completely not a factor.

Danny Lehr: [inaudible 00:13:13] Oh, one episode, I don't remember the episode was, I did a book review.

Dean Saddoris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Danny Lehr: I'm ready for another one.

Dean Saddoris: Okay.

Danny Lehr: Okay? Will be a pretty quick one, but it was good. So the book Elon Musk -

Dean Saddoris: He's a famous author.

Danny Lehr: The book is Elon Musk, it's about Elon Musk, but it's written ... It's a biography. And it's by Ashlee Vance. I've done zero research. Kind of like the rest of this show, there's zero research or preparation other than me reading the books. I actually don't know if Ashlee Vance is a male or female.

Dean Saddoris: I'm going to go with female.

Danny Lehr: No. EE. A-S-H-L-E-E.

Dean Saddoris: Mmm. Could be a guy.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. Yeah. Hard to say. Normally you kind of tell in the tone of the book -

Dean Saddoris: I feel like the LY is mostly girls.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. I think it might be a guy. I'm not sure. Anyway, sorry Ashlee. So basically the author decides to write a book on Elon Musk and everything he's doing, right? We're talking solar cities, SpaceX, Tesla, and there's a few other ... The Hyperloop thing. He was one of the founders of PayPal.

Dean Saddoris: He also believes in the Matrix theory.

Danny Lehr: He also perhaps believes in Matrix theory. So anyway I was like, "Oh," because I've heard it's really good. It's really good for leadership lessons, and just like owning companies and that type of stuff. "Oh yeah. Sounds good. It'll be interesting." And so apparently, I just like this part, is it starts off talking about it, the author's going to write the book and meets Elon and says, "Hey, I'm going to write this book on you where it sends a message. Can we do some interviews?" And the Elon said, "No. No thanks."

Dean Saddoris: Lose my number.

Danny Lehr: Right? Basically. So the author said, "All right no problem. Do it anyway," and went and interviewed every ex-employee that's ever worked for him. All of his childhood friends, and cousins, and basically talked to ... So then it's like, 18 months, two years later -

Dean Saddoris: So he got the real story.

Danny Lehr: [inaudible 00:15:14] And then, 18 months or so later, Elon says, "You know, seems like you're just going to be doing this thing anyway. So might as well get my fucking side of things." And said, "How about this, how about it's all good you can have full access. We can do interviews. The whole thing. Just before you publish it, I just need to write footnotes. I can just add in footnotes to things. My side of the story." And you know they said, "Eh, it's not really going to work, because I don't want to you add 150 pages to this fucking thing of footnotes." You know? And so then eventually, over the course of dinner, Elon's like, "All right. Let's just do it." So it's cool because you get the interviews with Elon Musk himself, but you also get all ... It's not like he had somebody write this story. Someone else is doing it anyway and he just eventually obliged to help out because why would you not want your side of everything to be heard.

Once you realize they're following through with it, you're better off probably just doing the interviews. You know? So anyway -

Dean Saddoris: [inaudible 00:16:08]

Danny Lehr: No. And so anyway, real interesting few things did not know. So SpaceX is fucking crazy. Basically the entire thing is is that Elon Musk, his whole goal, is he wants to colonize Mars. And he thinks mankind is going to come to an end if we just stay on Earth here. We're not going to make it the way we're destroying the planet and whatnot. And he's been a sci-fi nerd since he was a kid, and so he's like, "We need to learn to colonize other planets if mankind is going to survive." So that's cool. And that's whey he made a company and started building rockets. SpaceX. Get people to Space.

They now are the cheapest rockets that shoot off satellites or take astronauts to the space station and supplies the space station and all that.

Dean Saddoris: That's turned into an independent business now.

Danny Lehr: It's a whole thing. And then there's the whole -

Dean Saddoris: NASA's too expensive.

Danny Lehr: The whole Tesla, and it's just ... Anyway it was ... I would say if anyone is at all interested in people, and quirky people, you know? Great read. And also great for leadership. Talks about the way he ... It's inspiring that he ... Basically he sees things, he wants to do things, and everybody tells him it's a terrible fucking idea. Everybody goes, "No that's not going to work because of this." "No that's not going to work because of that." Whatever. Talk about going up against industry giants, like you're competing directly against Boeing, and NASA.

Dean Saddoris: And he's also competing Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Honda.

Danny Lehr: SpaceX, like you're talking about going up against Boeing and NASA right? And then in the car sector, it's like the last successful car company startup was in the 1930's. It was Chrysler was the last American car manufacturer that had any success. So you're going against GM and this whole deal. And -

Dean Saddoris: He actually has an advantage against NASA since NASA's a government owned entity. But they have limitations on what they can do. As far as whatever money the have, is all they can do. Where he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Danny Lehr: And same thing with like launching, that whole deal. It's like something ... Like they set up systems because it was a bunch of computer engineers and stuff. So something right before, or 30 minutes prior to launch, something's not quite right. NASA like shut the whole thing down. Get it fixed. They'll launch three months later. Whereas what they'll do at SpaceX, something's wrong, if they can fix it ... If it's like a computer error or something like that they can fix, they'll just bang it out, fix it right now and go through with the launch. Stuff like that. And if it's fixed, it's fixed. You know?

Dean Saddoris: Hopefully.

Danny Lehr: But there's not all the red tape. You know? And so anyway -

Dean Saddoris: Well NASA doesn't have the best track record. So maybe they should be taking those three months of -

Danny Lehr: And that's just one of those things. Like that's why it's so crazy too that private company you can do it. You know what I mean? Talking about -

Dean Saddoris: [inaudible 00:18:54] Let's look at how many times NASA has launched compared to how many times Tesla's launched anything. So it's like, the stats are skewed. Like, "Well yeah we've launched 150 times, and we've had one or two mistakes," you've launched like ten times, these are all bullshit numbers and nothing's gone wrong yet.

Danny Lehr: Well that's the thing. And what's interesting also is that whole launch schedule at SpaceX now. Like they're basically firing off a rocket every other month, and they're going to start doing it every month. Whereas NASA would never go make that [inaudible 00:19:25] Their goal is they want to shoot off multiple in a day. They want to be able to like, hammer them out. So it's pretty wild. Also they're launching for like between $60 million and $90 million which is a fraction of what the cost of -

Dean Saddoris: I think it's three times NASA would pay to have something like that done.

Danny Lehr: [crosstalk 00:19:45]

Dean Saddoris: And especially they have like, how many more employee? You know NASA people are getting paid to do micro things. You know what I mean? Like, there's probably so much money wasted through NASA because there's so many protocols and so many people have to go through so many things. And it's like one person does every little piece where it doesn't necessarily have to be that way, but then it's also like government jobs that you can't really fire people from and stuff like that.

Danny Lehr: You know what's a trip too is like it's the certain times where it's basically SpaceX and Tesla are both kind of the crossroads. Like both companies, neither one was currently profitable but they had all these things going on, and Elon dumped basically ... Literally ever penny of his money into it. Like he was not taking a check. And it's funny ... It's hard to feel bad for a guy who, hundreds of millions of dollars, but he literally put every dime into the companies and at one point it was like on a Tuesday, and he was like, "Next Friday was payroll, and I could not meet payroll." Like nothing. And like nothing that was personal. Like absolutely nothing. And he told his wife, he's like, "We will move in with your parents in the basement before we give ..." Whatever. And then some things came through last minute and he was able to pay people.

But I mean talk about putting all on the line. Going from literally hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank to nothing. Like, "Okay, a week from Friday we will be in debt. Zero, anything, company's worthless. Fucking bankrupt. Like all gone." Ah let's roll the dice. Let's run it.

Dean Saddoris: And that's why he's in the position he's in.

Danny Lehr: So anyway, that was cool. So out of ten, seven. Which is good. That's good.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. I still highly disagree with your cowboy coffee rating, but that would be for another day.

Danny Lehr: Yeah cowboy coffee. So -

Dean Saddoris: I fell like that's some of the best coffee I've ever had.

Danny Lehr: Boil the water, dump the grounds in.

Dean Saddoris: It was delicious.

Danny Lehr: It was good.

Dean Saddoris: I really think it was like ... I can't imagine a time I've had better regular home brewed coffee.

Danny Lehr: Really?

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. I thought it was fantastic.

Danny Lehr: You like it better than French press?

Dean Saddoris: I feel like it tasted equally as good. I give French press the same rating.

Danny Lehr: Mmm. Yeah.

Dean Saddoris: Only time I've ever given anything higher than an eight, as far as a brewing, it had to be something very unique with maybe some kind of added flavor. I don't know what it would be. Because like what's a ten? Like I don't just throw out tens. What would that be? I don't know. It'd have to be the whole thing. It'd have to be some kind of ... I don't know. Maybe one day we'll come across one.

Danny Lehr: A perfect ten?

Dean Saddoris: Yeah, a perfect ten. This isn't the slam dunk contest where every other dunk a perfect ten.

Danny Lehr: What a fucking awful thing.

Dean Saddoris: It's like, who just gives out tens like that?

Danny Lehr: Well I just got ... You know what it is -

Dean Saddoris: You don't get to move on to the next round unless you get a perfect ten.

Danny Lehr: You know why -

Dean Saddoris: Like what happened?

Danny Lehr: I can tel you why. I can tell you why. Because the contest is fucking boring.

Dean Saddoris: This year's was pretty entertaining.

Danny Lehr: I disagree.

Dean Saddoris: But it wasn't like -

Danny Lehr: I thought it was terrible. That's why I didn't watch it.

Dean Saddoris: Well the problem is now though, is it's not necessarily that the dunks are bad, it's that we just don't give a shit about the people doing them.

Danny Lehr: Well you know what else? It's that what ... Like what impressive dunk is someone going to do that hasn't been done? I think that's the thing is that it's just so ... Like at this point kind of seen it all.

Dean Saddoris: All these dunks though were pretty new. Pretty fresh.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. See I'm basing my strong opinion off not watching on second of it.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah, I can tell. Because it was actually pretty good. I just don't have any ... I just don't have any connection to any of the players which for me was what made it not as interesting as like, let's say Michael Jordan and fucking Magic Johnson. Like those guys doing a dunk contest. Yeah, and Vince Carter, and like why not LeBron James or somebody. That's what we really want to see.

Danny Lehr: About eight years ago when the Golden State Warriors were absolutely fucking atrocious, Jason Richardson, two time dunk champ, and it was great because that's what everyone hung their hat on. They said, "Yeah we won 35 games this year, but CJ Rich won the dunk contest? Hell yeah." [crosstalk 00:23:51] Oh absolutely.

Dean Saddoris: Man it must be nice to get 35 wins in a season. I don't even know what that's like.

Danny Lehr: Did the Kings not -

Dean Saddoris: Oh god. They broke 30 like two years ago with [inaudible 00:24:02] and like that was a big deal.

Danny Lehr: Really?

Dean Saddoris: It's just been so bad.

Danny Lehr: Man. What's the lowest? You know, like the lowest number of wins in the NBAs right now? Or like for a season? What's the record low for a season?

Dean Saddoris: I would assume like 15 games probably.

Danny Lehr: [inaudible 00:24:16] Like you got to just like fuck around and win.

Dean Saddoris: Well now we have this huge problem in the NBA where everybody's literally just tanking on purpose and everybody's admitting it now. They've always been doing it, but now it's like you got what's his name on the -

Danny Lehr: Mavericks.

Dean Saddoris: Mavericks who's basically coming out and saying, "Yeah we're tanking this year," and they fine them $600,000 for saying that. What's his name? What's that guys name? Yeah. Mark Cuban.

Danny Lehr: Mark Cuban.

Dean Saddoris: Mark Cuban like on a podcast said that they're going to tank this year intentionally.

Danny Lehr: That's what we're doing.

Dean Saddoris: And then they fine him $600,000.

Danny Lehr: Who do they want in the draft?

Dean Saddoris: I don't think it matters. Everybody's going to be good.

Danny Lehr: Like anybody's better than what we got.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Like if you're getting a top draft pick, it's going to help you somehow.

Danny Lehr: If you're getting a top five, and you don't pick some seven eight guy out of Lithuania, as long as you stay away from that and just pick someone who played some NCAA, top five pick, you're probably going to be okay?

Dean Saddoris: Yeah.

Danny Lehr: Is that kind of how it goes?

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Unless you pick ... What's his name for the Knicks. Everybody was -

Danny Lehr: Corzingus.

Dean Saddoris: Corzingus. He's an outlier though.

Danny Lehr: That guy.

Dean Saddoris: And everybody was just hating on the Knicks for picking him. Like, "Oh you guys don't know what the hell you're doing." It's been a rough ride, and then all of a sudden they pick him and it works out. "Yeah that was a such good call."

Danny Lehr: He's one of my favorite players to watch.

Dean Saddoris: He's great.

Danny Lehr: He's so much fun.

Dean Saddoris: Oh he's the modern example of a new big man.

Danny Lehr: Yeah.

Dean Saddoris: You got to be able to shoot, he's got to be able to dribble, and you got to be able to just like play like a forward.

Danny Lehr: That's the way it is. There is no such thing ... There's ... Basically there is no more center in NBA.

Dean Saddoris: The last center -

Danny Lehr: Or there's no more power forward.

Dean Saddoris: The last center in the NBA is Dwight Howard, and -

Danny Lehr: There's few. You get like Steven Adams.

Dean Saddoris: What's his name from the Clippers?

Danny Lehr: Dioner Jordan.

Dean Saddoris: Dioner Jordan.

Danny Lehr: You know what it is I think? I think there's no -

Dean Saddoris: That's like the end of a millennia. No one's picking up any new ones.

Danny Lehr: I think ... What is the power forward position is gone. You'll get some guy still like the Steven Adams, like that whatever. But you're either a small forward, or a center. That's it. I don't know.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. I feel like the center's eventually just not even going to be even talked about.

Danny Lehr: Just not a position.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. It's just going to be the next phase of basketball. Just really isn't going to be centers. Everybody has to be able to dribble, everybody has to be able to shoot. The days of Shaquille O'Neil are just dead.

Danny Lehr: Shot down.

Dean Saddoris: Just doesn't ... You can't just sit under the hoop in the three second zone anymore.

Danny Lehr: Man, that's unfortunate. Because I can't shoot to save my life. I'm awful.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. NBA's interesting now. It's just a completely offensive game.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. Which some people think is offensive.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. It's ... I mean what do you want though?

Danny Lehr: Yeah I know. People want to see some score.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Like I don't ... I don't necessarily see the issue entirely. Like I don't want them to like not try. I want to see an awesome block or a good steal like everybody else, but like, I'm not trying to watch someone pass a ball 40 times for them to just lose it.

Danny Lehr: Bunch guys out there just swinging meat.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Not good. Slinging brass. Slinging meat.

Danny Lehr: Just out there, yeah. Swinging meat. You know what I mean.

Dean Saddoris: Head up the hill and sling some brass. When I head home, swing some meat.

Danny Lehr: Welcome to the gym. Ah, just here to ... I'm here to jack some steel, swing some meat. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Sounds -

Dean Saddoris: Your locker's over there. Towels are in the back. Okay.

Danny Lehr: Okay. It's ... We got some reviews on iTunes.

Dean Saddoris: Let's hear them.

Danny Lehr: Well I didn't print the written ones. I just print the overall like how many five stars. Because I notice we have like 40 reviews. Okay?

Dean Saddoris: No shit.

Danny Lehr: Oh no no. Sorry. Sorry. 35.

Dean Saddoris: Okay.

Danny Lehr: 35 reviews.

Dean Saddoris: Getting anybody to review anything these days is a fucking ... Is an accomplishment.

Danny Lehr: Well so we've released, I think, 12 episodes now. 12 episodes. So you know 35 reviews, 12 episodes. It's not bad.

Dean Saddoris: I mean I follow some podcasts that have been on for a while that don't have maybe 110 reviews. Been around for ten years.

Danny Lehr: If you enjoy listening to Gas Station Cappuccino Podcast, please go on iTunes and give us a review.

Dean Saddoris: Or if you don't.

Danny Lehr: Or if you don't listen, review it anyway. Like I did with the dunk contest.

Dean Saddoris: Exactly. Just completely uneducated, uninterested opinion.

Danny Lehr: And the most important thing about that is when you make that opinion and you make a statement about something you nothing about, really important, you fucking dig in. Heels down. You know what I mean?

Dean Saddoris: It's more difficult to be persuaded the other way.

Danny Lehr: You just hunker down, saddle up, and just fight tooth and nail for something you have no clue about.

Dean Saddoris: That's ideal.

Danny Lehr: That's ideal. Absolutely. And then what happens about 10, 15 minutes in you just go, "Yeah I guess you're right. I'm going to have to listen and find out."

Dean Saddoris: Happens all the time. All the time. "But you have no idea what you're talking about." Doesn't matter.

Danny Lehr: That's right. That's right.

Dean Saddoris: Don't need to.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So with those reviews though I did make this little note. I noticed out of 35 reviews, we have 34 five stars.

Dean Saddoris: No shit.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. And then one three start review.

Dean Saddoris: What does that one say?

Danny Lehr: What the fuck is that guy? I don't know. Didn't say anything.

Dean Saddoris: Maybe he's expecting you to be something that we're not intending it to be.

Danny Lehr: You know what?

Dean Saddoris: Confusion.

Danny Lehr: You know what it is?

Dean Saddoris: Podcast confusion.

Danny Lehr: I can tell you what it is. It's my wife.

Dean Saddoris: It's Jess.

Danny Lehr: It's Jess.

Dean Saddoris: It could be a joint Kelsey Jess account.

Danny Lehr: They probably teamed -

Dean Saddoris: It's a troll account.

Danny Lehr: Let me tell you, if we had two three star reviews [inaudible 00:30:19] Absolutely no questions.

Dean Saddoris: Not this shit again.

Danny Lehr: Yeah.

Dean Saddoris: I have to live with this.

Danny Lehr: I hear you talk all the time.

Dean Saddoris: Do we have anything about what it said about the review?

Danny Lehr: No. It did. That one didn't have ... There's about .... I think there's 12 or so where there's a couple sentences. You know like actual written reviews. But there's 35 just star reviews. Like five star whatever. You know? So anyway, if you enjoy Gas Station Cappuccino, please go leave us a review.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah. Please do.

Danny Lehr: Well you know what they say. When in Rome.

Dean Saddoris: When in Rome guys, swing that brass.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. Swing that brass. See what I mean?

Dean Saddoris: Sling that brass.

Danny Lehr: I think that's it for today. We're about 30 minutes in. 25 or so. 30. Now today, if you go to the gym, make sure you let everybody know, "I'm just here to jack some steel."

Dean Saddoris: "I'm hear to catch the vibe. Feel the steel."

Danny Lehr: Feel the steel. Catch the vibe. All right.

Dean Saddoris: If I ever were to walk into a new gym, and a coach of some sort asked me what my goals are, I would just look at them in the face, swear to god, and I would just be like, "You know what honestly, I'm just trying to catch the vibe and feel some steel."

Danny Lehr: What would you say if someone said that to you?

Dean Saddoris: I'd be like, "You know what? I'm happy you came here because that's what we're all about."

Danny Lehr: If someone looked me in the face and said, "I'm just here to catch the vibe and feel steel," I'd be like, "Fuck yeah." Like, "You know what man?" I'd look them in the eyes, I'd say, "Me too."

Dean Saddoris: Welcome aboard.

Danny Lehr: You know what would happen? We'd ... It'd actually be kind of awkward because I think we'd actually probably have a moment. Like one of those things where you're just like ... And it's like standing there, never met the dude before, we're 18 inches apart, and just staring each other in the eyes. It's like, "Holy shit."

Dean Saddoris: Man this guy gets it.

Danny Lehr: He gets me.

Dean Saddoris: He gets it and me.

Danny Lehr: Yeah. You know what I mean? And later, [inaudible 00:32:16]

Dean Saddoris: Ready to go sling some brass.

Danny Lehr: All right. Thank you for listening to the Gas Station Cappuccino. If you at all enjoy any part of this, maybe you got fired up, maybe you liked hearing about Elon Musk. Maybe you just really were into ... I don't know. Into this type of thing. All right. There we go. Maybe that. If you thought this episode was perfect. Anyway, let us know what you think about the whole thing. Podcast@CaffeineandKilos is where you can reach us. Also on iTunes. Please go leave a review for us. Give us how ever many stars you deem necessary. Hopefully it's more than my wife did.

Dean Saddoris: Yeah.

Danny Lehr: All right guys.

Dean Saddoris: Threes and up.

Danny Lehr: Threes and up. All right. Until next time, this is -

Dean Saddoris: Gas Station Cappuccino.

Danny Lehr: Oh, oh shit Dean. You're going to the Arnold this weekend. We to [inaudible 00:33:09] real quick.

Dean Saddoris: Oh dude. The suicide?

Danny Lehr: The suicide.

Dean Saddoris: When I get back.

Danny Lehr: Someone tagged his Instagram video of doing a cappuccino suicide [crosstalk 00:33:18] Swear to god.

Dean Saddoris: Bullshit.

Danny Lehr: Someone, swear to god, somebody tagged us and it said, suicide, and it showed him filling up cappuccino. He went over to the next one, hit the button.

Dean Saddoris: Oh my god, I got to find that.

Danny Lehr: Yeah.

Dean Saddoris: Got to show me that when we get off.

Danny Lehr: All right. Later guys.

Dean Saddoris: See you.